Avoiding America Before Joe Rogan Appearance

There was conversations of me doing Joe Rogan long before. 'Cause before I got arrested- He

was down to have you on? Yeah, before I got arrested, I was avoiding America.

I thought, "I'm way too large now. The matrix is gonna try and get me."

So I was saying, "If I stay in Europe and Dubai, and I stay out of American politics

to the best of my ability-" You're good. "... then I might be

okay." So I was being invited to America all the time for these podcasts, these huge ones.

Not just Joe, other very large ones. Mm-hmm. And I was saying

to Tristan, "It's Icarus. It's too close to the sun. If I go and blow